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A bicyclist who broadsided a delivery truck on near Oregon Health and Science University was not seriously hurt.
The collision happened just before midnight on Southwest Campus Drive just down the hill from Doernbecher Children's Hospital.
Portland Police say the cyclist, whose name has not been released, was riding downhill in the uphill lane with no lights just before the crash.
As a delivery truck turned into a nearby driveway, the bicyclist struck the side of the truck.
The force of the impact was enough to knock the bicyclist unconscious. He was treated and released from the hospital.
According to the Oregonian, the cyclist is in fair condition this morning, thankfully. There have been an incredible number of bicycle/vehicle collisions and fatalities in the past year in the Portland/Beaverton area. Most of the involved vehicles are large trucks and buses. Yet, one would think from the attack by Portland's green people and alternative transportation advocates, that passenger cars are the primary threat to bicycles. Twenty five years ago I was an avid bicycle enthusiast and rider. I realized how dangerous it is to mix cars and bikes and gave up bicycle riding on the public streets. It is just not worth the risk. Proponents of bicycles as a major transportation choice are deluding themselves. How many of our fine City workers go about their daily business on bicycles? Save for a few bike cops and the like, the rest of them use motor vehicles to conduct business. The idea that the rest of us are somehow supposed to commute to work on bicycles is irrational thinking. Painting boxes and lines on the roadways just encourages more people to use this dangerous and inefficient form of transportation and does not provide enough safety. Bicycles are regressive, not progressive. Doing the wrong thing harder never works.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Go ahead blame the truck driver.....NOT
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:37 AM
BAN THESE TOYS FROM THE HI-WAYS
Portland Police say the cyclist, whose name has not been released, "was riding downhill in the uphill lane with no lights just before the crash."
There used to be signs that said
"NON MOTORIZED VEHICLES PROHIBITED"
When you mix TOYS with cars and trucks, the TOYS get squished every time!
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:50 AM
I told you he was a rocket scientist, obviously a person of higher intelligence
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:04 AM
So are all of you going to "git yer guns" out and shoot all the cyclists you see? Cars and vehicles can coexists, believe it or not, And if you argue that liberalism is a mental disorder then you have to say that so is conservatism.
And you are picking one example of a person who obviously made the mistakes and caused the accident, and applying it to all cyclists. There are just as many if not MORE moron divers out there.
Yes there are increased risks riding bikes, just like there are increased risks riding motorcycles, but I don't hear any of you calling to get them off the road too. Motorcycles are most often in accidents because drivers of cars and trucks don't see them, the same reasons as bicycles.
Face it, the real issue is that you just want the roads all to yourselves. It is an issue of YOU deserve everything and screw everyone else.
Nothing like a bunch of morons to show the danger of group moronic think...
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:16 AM
What an idiot! Ride with common sense and you have a much better chance to arrive at your destination alive.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:42 AM
you can lead a liberal to the the truth, but you can't make him(her) think.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:48 AM
Perhaps we should let him master the complicated tricks of riding a bicycle BEFORE we let him drive - at least that way the more serious results of DRIVING on the wrong side of the road will be avoided.
And I fail to see the "liberal/conservative" connection here................
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 02:17 AM
It takes a true "rocket scientist" to make a liberal/conservative connection here... unless you use the bike rider as a metaphor for social and economic progress and the side of the truck as a metaphor for the conservative thought process...
I will say that this cyclist should be ticketed for this. I'm glad they're OK but cyclists put themselves in danger everyday and have ZERO accountability. There should be some kind of punishment or checkpoint before they're injured.
If you want to ride a bike in the street you should have some form of license as well as insurance. You want to be equal with an automobile on the road, step up and be accountable, responsible and safe. There are bad drivers on bikes and bad drivers in cars--I just hate seeing accidents like this happen due to complete carelessness.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 03:09 AM
I don't understand bikers. When I ride my bike I always remember that a cars mass is 1500 + lbs. my mass with the bike is 200lbs at most. Also our density isn't anywhere close either I give them the right of way because if I get hit it's going to hurt me a lot more than I will hurt them.
Stupid bikers are to blame for a majority of accidents out there.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 03:10 AM
So only liberals ride bikes?
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 03:13 AM
apparently, yes, only liberals ride bikes.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 03:16 AM
FYI, most "rocket science" is taught in high school physics.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 03:18 AM
Everyone is alway's ready to jump on the truck driver or garbge truck driver or someone that hit a bike rider, but oh,please ask forgiveness for the bike rider that had his head inverted , it's ok, we make mistake's...Yeah ,that's how it work.......NOT
Hey "SW", Please get on your bike and get in front of my "truck" you SMUCK
I like motorcycle's at least they obey the rule's of the road
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 04:22 AM
"FYI, most "rocket science" is taught in high school physics."
apparently this one wasn't as smart as he thought he was....
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 04:27 AM
A couple of months back, a bicyclist, based on the skid marks, was obviously riding too fast for the conditions down the Interstate Hill, maybe even racing traffic, when garbage truck, after passing the bicyclist at the top of the hill, made a slow moving right turn and the bicyclist slammed in to the side of the truck killing the bicyclist. Earlier this week a bicyclist was run over and killed by a TriMet bus. One scenario suggests the bicyclist failed to stop at a traffic signal before making a right turn in front of the bus. Now there is this bicyclist that was riding downhill in the uphill lane with no lights just before the crash. The garbage truck driver, the bus driver and the delivery truck driver in the third crash are all professional drivers. In all three crashes, the bicyclists appeared to be violating common practice traffic laws. Yet the bias response by people like Commissioner Adams is to spend more money on bicycle infrastructure to protect bicyclists from themselves, allowing them to continue their arrogant disregard for traffic laws and kamikaze style riding habits rather than cracking down with bicycle stings and strong enforcement requiring police to ticket bicyclists that continue to defy the basic rules of the road.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 05:39 AM
FACT: Bicycle riders carry NO insurance!
FACT: Bicycle riders are NOT licensed!
FACT: Bicycle riders do not pay to build the roads!
FACT: Bicycle riders do NOT pay any taxes to maintain the roads!
FACT: Bicycle riders do NOT follow any of the road laws that the cars & trucks do!
FACT: Bicycle riders are a bunch of arrogant SOB's who feel that THEY are owed something for which they contribute nothing to except congestion! (CRITICAL MASS proves this statement correct!)
FACT: Bicycles are TOYS and should NOT be used on our hi-ways for any reason!
As in this case and ALL cases.... this bicycle rider WAS at fault, riding the WRONG way on a one way street, riding with NO lights, riding with NO insurance, riding without a license, and speeding down a city street with NO regaurd to himself or anyone else who was on the road!
BAN THESE DAMN THINGS FROM THE ROAD NOW!
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 05:42 AM
I'm a conservative Bush supporter neo-con (no kidding) and I support the usage and promotion of bike riding as alternative transport.
Accidents happen, usually the dumb people in the world find a way to remove themselves Darwinistically. Lucky for this guy he hit a truck near a hospital.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 05:55 AM
Hey get off the road, you should really refresh your knowledge on the correct use of apostrophe's before you go criticizing other people's intelligence.
Here's an exercise for you. There are five apostrophe's in this post, 2 of which shouldn't be there. Can you guess which ones? You get a gold star if you can! Oh boy!
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 06:21 AM
Well let's see, LIAMD...
I have insurance, car insurance, life insurance, homeowner insurance;
I pay plenty of taxes;
I follow every road law when I ride my bike;
I have never attended nor even seen a critical mass;
I am not arrogant and how dare you insult my mother.
How do I fit into your neat little package then?
Nice job parroting Michael Savage and Lars Larson, though, really. When (if) you ever have an original thought, especially that has some basis in reality, I'd love to hear it.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 06:28 AM
Hey "" ..... I do that so it will drive you NUTs , Ya no Gomer....
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 06:35 AM
Lars is a great guy, Tells it like it is...
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 06:38 AM
I love the way some people are so afraid that the only name they use is "". This is to the one with the phrase "git yer guns" look it was not a mistake to ride at midnight with out lights it was not a mistake to ride in the wrong lane of trafic it's stupid.
This is to the other "" that started his post with 'I don't understand bikers' FYI the dodge pick up that I drive tips the scales at 5,500 LB. empty so I hate to say it if I ran over some one there would be just a grease spot, grab a sponge.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 06:45 AM
No, you do it because you are a moron. It doesn't drive me nuts; I think it's hilarious that you couldn't pass a grade school punctuation exam. And the spelling and grammar errors do wonders for the argument you are advancing.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 06:47 AM
How about me? Am I brave?
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 06:47 AM
See gotcha !!!
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 06:59 AM
to the "git yer guns" person look the differance between bikes and motorcycles is this
motorcycles have BETTER lights, turn signals, break lights, a horn and a license for the motorcycle and an endorsement for the size of your "ride 499cc and smaller or 500cc and bigger" insurance and better breaks.
To "How about me? Am I brave?" no my point is that it is easier to have a discussion when you can address it to the person you want to talk with, back a month ago I was having a nice long respectable chat with another poster on this very subject when that guy ran in to the garbage truck and was killed, it just seems to me that "you folks" are afraid to have a "name any name" posted so a conversation can take place.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 07:14 AM
This News paper obviously hasn't gotten the Memo. The Bi-cycle Rider Will be Paying a Careless Driving ticket off in the near future.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 07:52 AM
All this just begs the question...
Why the hell wasn't he riding the Tram?
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:41 AM
The bicyclist's who advocate NOT building more roads and greater capacity are their own worst enemy. More congestion increases risking the lives of ALL transportation users, regardless of type. More bicyclists put pedestrians at risk, motorized vehicles put bicyclists and Pedestrians at risk, etc. More roads, and proper maintenance, with greater capacity would reduce the interaction of transportation modes that seem to be killing bicyclists. TriMet, still kills more people per passenger mile, than any other transportation mode available in the Tri-County area. This entire situation was "Planned" to harm us, so we would accept "High Density Living" and "Smart Growth Planning" as needed to curb travel, well it doesn't work, more and more everyday.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:25 AM
Well let's see, LIAMD...
I have insurance, car insurance, life insurance, homeowner insurance;
I pay plenty of taxes;
I follow every road law when I ride my bike;
Well lets address your reply:
1. Your car insurance does NOT cover your bycycle when you ride that.
2. Your life insurance does NOT repair or pay any claims caused by you to other people or their property.
3. When you ride your bike on the roads, you are NOT paying any taxes, motor vehicles pay gas tax, road use tax (trucks), license fees, USDOT fees, you you see you are just another FREELOADER who wants something for nothing, and wants everybody elese to pay for it!
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:45 AM
Hey ""
"Get off the road" only used one "apostrophe"
"FYI, most "rocket science" is taught in high school physics."
apparently this one wasn't as smart as he thought he was....
"Get off the road"
What he used were "quotation marks"
So I guess that it is "you" who does NOT get a gold star!
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:50 AM
LIAMD:
Exclamation points and capital letters do not disguise the fact that you don't know what you are talking about.
"Your car insurance does NOT cover your bycycle when you ride that."
Wrong. If you have auto insurance, you get up to $15,000 in no-fault PIP benefits for medical care when injured on your bike in a collision with a car, just like when injured in your car in a collision.
"Your life insurance does NOT repair or pay any claims caused by you to other people or their property."
True, your life insurance does not, but your homeowner's/renter's insurance does.
You obviously have no first hand experience with bicycle accidents. Therefore, I respectfully suggest you shut up. Thanks.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM
Hey Ken,
Fact, YOU may get coverage for yourself, but your car insurance does NOT pay for the $50,000.00 Mercedes you just piled into!
Your homeowners insurance does NOT cover your driving accidents that occur OFF your property, nor does it cover your liability when you run into someone's car or person out on an Oregon road!
Oh , but I do have first hand knowledge of you damn UN-insured bicycle riders, I had a hit & run by one of your ILK, and I had to pay for the repairs to my wife's 2007 Mustang myself!
So take your damn "Insane liberal mentality" and insert it where the sun doesn't shine!
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 11:34 AM
"Your homeowners insurance does NOT cover your driving accidents that occur OFF your property, nor does it cover your liability when you run into someone's car or person out on an Oregon road!"
You have some weak homeowners insurance if it doesn't cover the damage you cause on your bike. I have seen auto insurance cover damage to a car for which its insured bicyclist was liable, too.
Sorry about your negative experience with uninsured bikers. However, if a bicyclist that damages your "grown-up, big-boy" Mustang is insured, whether home or auto, you have a valid claim to that insurance.
If you had valid auto insurance for the Mustang, and didn't make a claim under UM/UIM coverage for the damage caused by my ILK, you are not very smart at all.
No matter how many big-boy capital letters and exclamation points you use.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:53 PM
LIAMD:
Can you count past 2? The post I was responding to mr get off the road used 6 apostrophes, 2 of which were used properly. Or maybe you don't know what an apostrophe is. That's where I have my money.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 04:09 PM
My goodness...learn to count. 12:22 PM. 1-2-3-4-5-6 apostrophes.
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 04:13 PM
Glad the bike rider will be OK. That said, the Portland police have now declared a crackdown on motorists who hit "vulnerable users". The listed "vulnerable users" include, in addition to the usual pedestrians and bicyclists, skateboarders and roller skaters. Since when are skateboards and roller skates considered legal on the public streets? This is only getting more insane and encouraging more high risk people to get out into traffic with the irrational belief that the law is not only on their side, but offers them protection. We need to be getting these high risk users to become more accountable for their actions and not be encouraging even more "wheeled vehicles" like skates and skateboards to be using the streets. Portland, wake up to reality!
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Hey "Ken No Insurance"
It was your ILK who HIT me, why the hell should MY insurance company have to pay for your ILK's accident? You are the classic sphincter who causes the accident, then runs, then says you fix it yourself, I'll bet a $100.00 it was YOU who hit the Mustang and then ran!
The fact is you and your TOYS have NO business on the roads whatso ever, you cause the accidents, then blames others for your carelessness!
Take your accident prone TOYS and move to China if you like riding so much! See if they put up with your drivel
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:26 AM
"It was your ILK who HIT me, why the hell should MY insurance company have to pay for your ILK's accident?"
Because, genius, you paid your insurance company premiums for this thing called "uninsured motorist coverage" or UM/UIM coverage, which is supposed to cover the damage caused to your car (or person) by an uninsured motorist (or bicyclist).
If you chose to pay for your damaged Mustang out of your own pocket rather than having your insurer pay it under your UM/UIM coverage--which you bought with the premiums you also paid out of your own pocket--that is your right, although it makes very little fiscal sense.
And your capital letters and exclamation points continue to carry very little persuasive weight.
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Hey "Careless Uninsured Ken",
Do you know that if it were not for "sphincters" like you who run around uninsured, I would not have to buy un-insured motorist insurance for my insured vehicles.
After all what has it been, 30-35 years since Oregon made it a mandatory insurance state?
And as you ask why I had to pay for the damage caused to my insured car, YOUR statement proves to me that you have NO insurance otherwise the term "deductable" whould have made sense to you!
But as usual you think these laws do not apply to you and your ILK, so then the costs of the claims are now passed along to others, you are a perfect example of the "Not Me" generation of Liberal Scum who infests our cities and state.
Take your TOY and play with it somewhere else, our roads were not built or maintained for freeloading "sphincters" like you!
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 12:54 AM
I don't understand why bicyclists who are using public streets don't have to be licensed and have tags for their bikes. I agree that most bike riders seem to be careful and obey the laws (or at least don't commit gross violations like blasting through a stop sign at full speed) - probably the same percentage as motorists. However, in both bikers and drivers there is a chronic few that seem to violate traffic laws left and right.
The problem is that with a motorist you can take away their driving privilege, but with the bicyclist, there is little you can do. Why should bicyclists get a pass on the basic mechanism used to regulate motor vehicles?
If you say because they can't cause anyone else any harm or damage, that's a crock. Try paying to have a human sized dent taken out of your hood when one of these chronic abusers choose to run a stop sign, or how about the damage you get when you stop suddenly because some jerk darts out in front of you and you get rear-ended.
If you say it is because there are only a small percentage of chronic abusers (and I'm not denying that may not be true) the same case can be made for motorists, yet we're all expected to be regulated by the state.
If you want drivers to take you seriously try exhibiting the same level of responsibility expected of drivers.
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:45 AM
No, the term "deductable" does not make sense to me.
If your damage to your Mustang was less than your "deductible," however, either your deductible is very high or the damage to your Mustang was minimal, and I fail to see what you are complaining about.
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 02:52 AM
Can't we all just get along?
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 03:38 AM
Hey "Careless Uninsured Ken",
It was you who ran into me! I can tell by your "Not Me" attitude!
Regardless of whether I have a high or low deductible is not the point, it was YOU the uninsured who ran into me, it was your fault not mine, not my insurance's problem, it was your negligence that caused the accident so be a man and step up to the bar and pay for the damage you caused!
It is bicycle riders like you that have created the reputation that this discussion is about.
PS: Ken, you claim that you are this wonderful "non polluter" because you ride your bicycle on our roads, well as you ride your bike, you are breathing out huge quantities of CO2 which as you liberals claim causes Global Warming, perhaps to save the planet you should park your bike and walk instead!
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 05:30 AM
You pedestrian/cyclist losers are losing worse than you think. We don't just kill 400 of you here in America a year; we poison another 30,000 of you with our exhaust. You can't even let your kids play outside in front of your house out of fear of us, you pathetic liberal freaks. We own the cities; all those signs and traffic lights which restrict your movement are because of us. They were designed to accommodate us, not you weakling hippies. Obey, or die, or die anyway. Your only consolation is our attack on you ends up killing 42,000 of us a year. But we don't care, it's worth it to us to watch you liberal idiots die. For us car drivers, it's a suicide attack. But don't confuse us with the islamofacists. We have killed, do kill and will kill way more people then the jihadists ever have or ever will.
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 01:02 PM
To: "Ken Clean Air Systems"
Every time I see you or one of your ILK on the road riding his/her bicycle, I will shift my diesel truck up one gear and bellow the thickest BLACK smoke out my tail pipe to fill your "clean air systems lungs" with the most pollution I can, so the next time your are fumagated out by thick BLACK smoke, maybe it is I who is paying you back!
Cough Cough Cough.............SLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 01:24 PM
To: "Fred Roellig"
Your comment "You can't even let your kids play outside in front of your house out of fear of us" no the reason they "the kids" are not out front is cause of the rapers, gun fights, kidnapers, drug dealers need I go on with the list.
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Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 04:27 PM
Nice try, cupcake, but the stats still show that red-blooded American car drivers still kick more liberal pedestrian buttocks than rapists etc. when it comes to children. The FBI estimates no more than 300 stranger abductions a year, where as we kill more than 400 under 14 year olds a year. In 1999 we nailed 773 of the little hippie snot-noses. Plus, we injure over 20,000 children a year. Now if you left wing wusses would just stay in your houses, we wouldn't have to kill you. But no, you bleeding heart idiots seem to think you have a right to go anywhere you want in the cities in which you live, work and raise families, without constantly being threatened with sudden death. Well, don't forget, fuzzbutt, if we don't kill you and your kids suddenly, we will get you gradually, with exhaust. So stick that in your pretty glass pot pipe and smoke it, you liberal sissy.
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Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 10:07 AM
Who paid his hospital bill? Just curious.
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Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 02:11 PM
Mr. Fred Roellig
My last post was just from my point of view from the last 38 years in the same house, right now around the corner we have a half way house for the criminality insane and some six blocks from a grade school and I think I can count on both hands all the car V bike/ped. wracks in the same time frame. Please don't call me names I'm being civil can you.
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Sat, Feb 16, 2008 at 03:07 PM
To: "Mr Tolerant"
Read some of the posts by "Uninsured Ken Clean Air Systems", his response answer your question!
It is "We the Taxpayers" who paid his medical bill!
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 01:12 AM
I love the sound you make when fall beneath my wheels, sorta sound like walking on "Bubble pack" wrapping!
POP, POP, POP,
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 01:18 AM
I'm sorry I got angry and resorted to name-calling; it's just that liberals burn me up. And your last post makes me mad again. Why? It's because you liberals are too poorly educated to know the difference between anecdotal evidence and statistical evidence. Misused anecdotal evidence, like that in your above post, is, to use Wikipedia's words, a "logical fallacy". And I'm already sick and tired of this crap from the liberal media, constantly bombarding us with stories of how much respect we need to give rapists and murderers and terrorists, when it's us motor vehicle drivers who are racking up the big numbers, both in people killed and people wounded. It's a simple, measurable, provable fact. But the leftwing lunatics running our news media just won't give us any credit. Anyway, google "anecdotal evidence" or look it up on Wikipedia and maybe you'll see my point. And keep your kids in your house where they belong! Why do you think we invented Playstation?
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 04:00 AM
Mr.Fred Roellig
I don't plan on having any kids I would not want them to grow up in this country in this day and age hell I'm all for corporal punishment "it worked for me" but now the kid calls the cops and you go to jail. I agree with you on the libb. point thay are running this place in to the ground special rights for every one except for us "white conservative hedrolsexual god loveing folks", hell last night around 11:30 a lincoln took out two parked cars across the street from me aparently the driver was on the phone and was driveing with a supended license, just from my little corner of this city "se portland" we get more car V car wrecks than car V "fill in the blank" and our great leader Ted 'tax and gouge me' wants to give a drivers license to every illegal in the state. Just my slanted point of view.
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 08:11 AM
Was the guy in the delivery truck OK?
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Fact: The cyclist in this story was totally in the wrong. When I am out riding my bike and see wrong-way riders, I scream bloody murder at them - for my sake, not theirs.
Fact: Nevertheless, I ride my bike legally and safely but I cannot be held accountable for what other cyclists do. As a motorist (which I am, too), I certainly cannot be held accountable for the 100% of motorists who run the stop sign across the street from my house.
Fact: Most bike/car accidents ARE the fault of the motorist.
Fact: Cyclists, at least those who pay taxes, DO pay for roads. Road user fees and gas taxes pay only about 70% of the cost of roads - less in municipalities. Last I looked no bike requires 30% of a road nor does a bike do 30% of the damage.
Fact: I'm a "lib" as in "libertarian" - not liberal.
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Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 11:27 PM
EB, (Green Acres EB?)
Fact: When you operate on the roads you are, uninsured, unlicensed, both you and the bike, you pay nothing to build the roads, you pay nothing to maintain the roads, and where do you think all of those "bike white lines" come from? Bicycle user fees, I don't think so!
Fact: There are far more costs incurred by the Oregon tax payers to maintain your bike paths, than any benefit
gained from them.
Fact: Most bike/car accidents ARE the fault of the motorist. <---State web sources dispute your claim!
Take your TOY off the roads and walk to work, ride the bus, ride Max, take a taxi, or drive your car, but don't whine when the garbage truck flattens your ESDL A** because you and your toy were run over!
Fact: I'm a "lib" as in "libertarian" - not liberal.<--- NO DIFFERENCE
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Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 12:19 AM
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Re: Cyclist seriously hurt in collision near OHSU
What a rocket scientist
"Get off the road"
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:36 AM